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		<link>http://arationalanimal.blogsome.com/2008/01/29/an-open-letter-to-barack-obama/#comment-199</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Good God.  Let me see if I can take this item by item.

First off, you're &quot;pretty disappointed&quot; - fine.  I'm &quot;pretty disappointed&quot; too - in this ludicrous, substanceless campaign by people who presume to want to lead us out of this legal, moral, ethical, and constitutional hellhole.  I do &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt;, however, expect anyone to &quot;conform to my most perfect ideals,&quot; and anyone who's read me over the last five years knows that I'm fairly hard-headedly pragmatic.  And as far as &quot;nihilistic, self-absorbed rants?&quot;  I do not think those words mean what you think they mean, with apologies to Inigo Montoya.  If that's what you think these are, then I suggest you check the comment threads at OpenLeft, MyDD, TalkLeft, and a few other lefty blogs.  

McCain would've handed Richardson's head to him?  No, it's not a fact.  It's a supposition, and one that I doubt you can substantiate.  I've seen Richardson campaign at his best and his worst, and his best can be very good.  And compared to the top three Dems, he had the kind of foreign policy and experiential chops to have made mincemeat of McCain's repeated flip-flops and sucking up to Bush.

And what's this about 20/20 hindsight re Kerry?  Um, some of us - who actually worked the '04 election on the ground - had 20/20 &lt;i&gt;foresight&lt;/i&gt;.  I was reasonably sure he was going to lose, because I saw firsthand what a stupid campaign he and his Villager advisers were running.  Kerry (like Gore in 2000) could have won outright, even with the Rethug election theft in Ohio, Florida, and elsewhere, but he let his precious goddamn establishment &quot;dignity&quot; get in the way of taking on the Bush-machine bullshit factory.  

You know, I can't really dissect the rest of your single huge graf (&quot;rant,&quot; say?) re being inspired by Obama's speeches and then disappointed on substance, only to have a come-to-Jesus moment that allowed you to put aside your cynicism and . . . what?  You've made my argument for me.  You're invested in this &quot;politics of hope&quot; stuff - fine.  But what if the substance doesn't follow - ever?  Then what?  

I wrote these letters at the end of January.  At that point, Obama had not been giving policy speeches; to his credit, he has begun doing so.  But this notion that because his position papers are on his Web site means that he shouldn't address them in detail in his public appearances is silly.  You want to talk about McCain handing his head to somebody - that's what'll happen if Obama doesn't begin getting over this whole &quot;transcendent&quot; thing and buttressing it with a hard-nosed policy campaign.

Finally, I'm just going to address a few points on which you are flatly - well, I'll be charitable and say &quot;mistaken.&quot;  First, as someone who's met Obama and known who he is for seven years, I don't rely on our &quot;corrupt media&quot; to tell me who he is.  In fact, I don't rely on our &quot;corrupt media&quot; for much of anything anymore, except to be reliably corrupt.  Second, I'm not relying on a &quot;cynical world view [&lt;i&gt;sic&lt;/i&gt;] that would have [me] miserable the rest of your life because [I] don’t have the guts to let [my]self be inspired and take a chance&quot; - and by the way, that's a pretty damn insulting statement coming from someone who's painting him- or herself as all about the politics of hope and inspiration.  Anyone who's &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; cynical after the last eight years either has been living under a rock or is thoroughly morally bankrupt.  But if I didn't believe that people are capable of doing the right thing, I wouldn't have bothered with these letters in the first place. Hardly the act of someone who relies on cynicism.  And as to my being &quot;miserable&quot; for the rest of my life:  I don't look to politicians to give my life purpose and meaning.  I get that from within.  And believe me, my daily life has plenty of both, and despite the best efforts of the Bush administration and the Villagers to destroy it, my daily happiness quotient is actually extraordinarily high.  

Oh, and incidentally, I agree with you about Nader.  Why do you think it prompted me to go ahead and post my letter to Edwards?

Look, g, I agree that you're perfectly entitled to your opinion about Obama.  And I'm perfectly entitled to mine.  But your comment reads like those of the blinkered Obama supporters who accuse anyone who doesn't &quot;believe&quot; of being a &quot;cynic&quot; or worse.  And when choosing the leader of the free world, I prefer to do so with my eyes wide open and my brain free of the fog of &quot;transcendence.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Good God.  Let me see if I can take this item by item.</p>
	<p>First off, you&#8217;re &#8220;pretty disappointed&#8221; - fine.  I&#8217;m &#8220;pretty disappointed&#8221; too - in this ludicrous, substanceless campaign by people who presume to want to lead us out of this legal, moral, ethical, and constitutional hellhole.  I do <i>not</i>, however, expect anyone to &#8220;conform to my most perfect ideals,&#8221; and anyone who&#8217;s read me over the last five years knows that I&#8217;m fairly hard-headedly pragmatic.  And as far as &#8220;nihilistic, self-absorbed rants?&#8221;  I do not think those words mean what you think they mean, with apologies to Inigo Montoya.  If that&#8217;s what you think these are, then I suggest you check the comment threads at OpenLeft, MyDD, TalkLeft, and a few other lefty blogs.  </p>
	<p>McCain would&#8217;ve handed Richardson&#8217;s head to him?  No, it&#8217;s not a fact.  It&#8217;s a supposition, and one that I doubt you can substantiate.  I&#8217;ve seen Richardson campaign at his best and his worst, and his best can be very good.  And compared to the top three Dems, he had the kind of foreign policy and experiential chops to have made mincemeat of McCain&#8217;s repeated flip-flops and sucking up to Bush.</p>
	<p>And what&#8217;s this about 20/20 hindsight re Kerry?  Um, some of us - who actually worked the &#8216;04 election on the ground - had 20/20 <i>foresight</i>.  I was reasonably sure he was going to lose, because I saw firsthand what a stupid campaign he and his Villager advisers were running.  Kerry (like Gore in 2000) could have won outright, even with the Rethug election theft in Ohio, Florida, and elsewhere, but he let his precious goddamn establishment &#8220;dignity&#8221; get in the way of taking on the Bush-machine bullshit factory.  </p>
	<p>You know, I can&#8217;t really dissect the rest of your single huge graf (&#8221;rant,&#8221; say?) re being inspired by Obama&#8217;s speeches and then disappointed on substance, only to have a come-to-Jesus moment that allowed you to put aside your cynicism and . . . what?  You&#8217;ve made my argument for me.  You&#8217;re invested in this &#8220;politics of hope&#8221; stuff - fine.  But what if the substance doesn&#8217;t follow - ever?  Then what?  </p>
	<p>I wrote these letters at the end of January.  At that point, Obama had not been giving policy speeches; to his credit, he has begun doing so.  But this notion that because his position papers are on his Web site means that he shouldn&#8217;t address them in detail in his public appearances is silly.  You want to talk about McCain handing his head to somebody - that&#8217;s what&#8217;ll happen if Obama doesn&#8217;t begin getting over this whole &#8220;transcendent&#8221; thing and buttressing it with a hard-nosed policy campaign.</p>
	<p>Finally, I&#8217;m just going to address a few points on which you are flatly - well, I&#8217;ll be charitable and say &#8220;mistaken.&#8221;  First, as someone who&#8217;s met Obama and known who he is for seven years, I don&#8217;t rely on our &#8220;corrupt media&#8221; to tell me who he is.  In fact, I don&#8217;t rely on our &#8220;corrupt media&#8221; for much of anything anymore, except to be reliably corrupt.  Second, I&#8217;m not relying on a &#8220;cynical world view [<i>sic</i>] that would have [me] miserable the rest of your life because [I] don’t have the guts to let [my]self be inspired and take a chance&#8221; - and by the way, that&#8217;s a pretty damn insulting statement coming from someone who&#8217;s painting him- or herself as all about the politics of hope and inspiration.  Anyone who&#8217;s <i>not</i> cynical after the last eight years either has been living under a rock or is thoroughly morally bankrupt.  But if I didn&#8217;t believe that people are capable of doing the right thing, I wouldn&#8217;t have bothered with these letters in the first place. Hardly the act of someone who relies on cynicism.  And as to my being &#8220;miserable&#8221; for the rest of my life:  I don&#8217;t look to politicians to give my life purpose and meaning.  I get that from within.  And believe me, my daily life has plenty of both, and despite the best efforts of the Bush administration and the Villagers to destroy it, my daily happiness quotient is actually extraordinarily high.  </p>
	<p>Oh, and incidentally, I agree with you about Nader.  Why do you think it prompted me to go ahead and post my letter to Edwards?</p>
	<p>Look, g, I agree that you&#8217;re perfectly entitled to your opinion about Obama.  And I&#8217;m perfectly entitled to mine.  But your comment reads like those of the blinkered Obama supporters who accuse anyone who doesn&#8217;t &#8220;believe&#8221; of being a &#8220;cynic&#8221; or worse.  And when choosing the leader of the free world, I prefer to do so with my eyes wide open and my brain free of the fog of &#8220;transcendence.&#8221;
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		<link>http://arationalanimal.blogsome.com/2008/01/29/an-open-letter-to-barack-obama/#comment-198</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Lilith,  I am pretty disappointed in this open letter and the ones to both Clinton and Edwards.  You really are smarter than these selfish, self-absorbed nihilistic rants that belittles anyone who does not conform to your most perfect ideals.  To take the sum total of your letters, I'm left with the strong belief that you wouldn't have been happy with ANY candidate.... EVER.  I know you initially supported Bill Richardson, but he was too weak as a candidate for most of the mis-or uninformed to even know who he is like the rest of us do.  If he had even been able to win the nomination he would ahve had his head handed to him by McCain in a general and you know that's a fact.  So truly, what is your point?  Is it to simply tear down our candidates and offer only unrealistic expectations for them to meet your idealistic standards?  You know enough about how this all works that you should really know better.  We can all look back with 20/20 hindsight and see where Kerry went wrong, but you know as well as I do that when that election was happening, no one on our side really thought Bush was going to win.  We &quot;had&quot; three good candidates as far as their progressive policies and 2 of those candidates made critical errors in the way they have run their campaigns.  And maybe that does point to a weakness in their eventual leadership in a pure political sense....but seriously, your only argument about Obama is that you are afraid he might be full of it and turn out to be what?  A Republican in Democrat's clothing?  You can't be serious...  He might not be the perfect candidate for you but if you are waiting for perfection you are SOL to be blunt.  As a completely cynical political person, it took me along while to allow Obama to &quot;brainwash&quot; me as you are not so subtly saying he does.   I watched a video of him giving a speech at Knox College a long time ago and thought it was a great speech but didn't know much about him and didn't follow it up.  And I CAN tell you details about that speech even now from that first viewing because he was one of the only national political figures who said exactly what was in my head.  But then he didn't vote how I would have liked on some nominations and I let myself get carried away with writing him off for that without being realistic, letting my cynicism get the best of me.  But then as this campaign has gone on, I have watched him speak and I have allowed his tempered hope inspire me.  He doesn't offer a magic solution in any of his speeches.  He tells the truth about what we all see (a rarity in politics) and then says that we all have to do something about it together.  Now seriously, I'm 33 and I have studied alot of history especially political history and I have never heard a politician say things like that and be that blunt and honest.  He's not saying he is going to make your life better, he is saying that if we all work together then WE can make our lives better.  THAT is what a leader is.... if you want substance go look at the millions of web sites that list his positions that he has stood by and the legislation he has passed and supported.  But no, you would rather attack him on the surface of what you have been told by a corrupt media you know you shouldn't trust and by a cynical world view that would have you miserable the rest of your life because you don't have the guts to let yourself be inspired and take a chance.  I mean seriously after my whole life of despising politicians I would much rather take a chance on Obama and end up with a so-so president who will at least right the ship somewhat than to walk blindly back into the same old same old we would have had with Clinton and the unrealistic campaign of Edwards.  So please, remember why Naders supporters really are the selfish bastards that they are and that being idealistic and stupid like that is what got Bush in the white house in the first place, among other things of course...   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Lilith,  I am pretty disappointed in this open letter and the ones to both Clinton and Edwards.  You really are smarter than these selfish, self-absorbed nihilistic rants that belittles anyone who does not conform to your most perfect ideals.  To take the sum total of your letters, I&#8217;m left with the strong belief that you wouldn&#8217;t have been happy with ANY candidate&#8230;. EVER.  I know you initially supported Bill Richardson, but he was too weak as a candidate for most of the mis-or uninformed to even know who he is like the rest of us do.  If he had even been able to win the nomination he would ahve had his head handed to him by McCain in a general and you know that&#8217;s a fact.  So truly, what is your point?  Is it to simply tear down our candidates and offer only unrealistic expectations for them to meet your idealistic standards?  You know enough about how this all works that you should really know better.  We can all look back with 20/20 hindsight and see where Kerry went wrong, but you know as well as I do that when that election was happening, no one on our side really thought Bush was going to win.  We &#8220;had&#8221; three good candidates as far as their progressive policies and 2 of those candidates made critical errors in the way they have run their campaigns.  And maybe that does point to a weakness in their eventual leadership in a pure political sense&#8230;.but seriously, your only argument about Obama is that you are afraid he might be full of it and turn out to be what?  A Republican in Democrat&#8217;s clothing?  You can&#8217;t be serious&#8230;  He might not be the perfect candidate for you but if you are waiting for perfection you are SOL to be blunt.  As a completely cynical political person, it took me along while to allow Obama to &#8220;brainwash&#8221; me as you are not so subtly saying he does.   I watched a video of him giving a speech at Knox College a long time ago and thought it was a great speech but didn&#8217;t know much about him and didn&#8217;t follow it up.  And I CAN tell you details about that speech even now from that first viewing because he was one of the only national political figures who said exactly what was in my head.  But then he didn&#8217;t vote how I would have liked on some nominations and I let myself get carried away with writing him off for that without being realistic, letting my cynicism get the best of me.  But then as this campaign has gone on, I have watched him speak and I have allowed his tempered hope inspire me.  He doesn&#8217;t offer a magic solution in any of his speeches.  He tells the truth about what we all see (a rarity in politics) and then says that we all have to do something about it together.  Now seriously, I&#8217;m 33 and I have studied alot of history especially political history and I have never heard a politician say things like that and be that blunt and honest.  He&#8217;s not saying he is going to make your life better, he is saying that if we all work together then WE can make our lives better.  THAT is what a leader is&#8230;. if you want substance go look at the millions of web sites that list his positions that he has stood by and the legislation he has passed and supported.  But no, you would rather attack him on the surface of what you have been told by a corrupt media you know you shouldn&#8217;t trust and by a cynical world view that would have you miserable the rest of your life because you don&#8217;t have the guts to let yourself be inspired and take a chance.  I mean seriously after my whole life of despising politicians I would much rather take a chance on Obama and end up with a so-so president who will at least right the ship somewhat than to walk blindly back into the same old same old we would have had with Clinton and the unrealistic campaign of Edwards.  So please, remember why Naders supporters really are the selfish bastards that they are and that being idealistic and stupid like that is what got Bush in the white house in the first place, among other things of course&#8230;
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